Dean: And what happens when the mark turns you psycho, then what?
Sam: You lock me up, where I can’t hurt anyone, and throw away the key.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, SAM?! When Dean asked you to do that to him, you refused and released the DARKNESS, the very problem you’re trying to fight right now, but when it’s tables turned all of a sudden you want Dean to do the thing you previously refused to do, so you can be the Saviour™?!
It’s also
interesting that when Sam suggests the “lock me up so I can’t hurt anyone” plan,
nobody goes “OMG look! He’s giving up! He stopped fighting!”
Yes!
(sarcastic voice) Cause, y’know, when Sam does something self-destructive for the greater good, the narrative paints him as a selfless, humble hero, but if Dean does it, it’s considered as a selfish, codependent act of senseless suicide, of course. How else could it be.
It’s so strange that this narrative bias favouring Sam still goes unnoted by most fans…
They weren’t even trying to hide the bias either. That’s what pisses me off the most about it.
Sam needed to take on the Mark instead of Dean because, apparently, he won’t give into it were as Dean will because he’s already been tainted by it?? Like what fucking sense does that make? Honestly?
Dean having already borne the Mark is exactly why he should have it because he already knows how to do handle it and Dean did, in fact, handle it. Dean never actually gave into the Mark. Ever. Unless you consider killing a pedophile who tried to rape Claire and was going to kill him and a family of Nazi sympathizer mad scientists who killed Charlie and had kidnapped him giving into the Mark which I sure as fuck don’t.
Dean can’t handle the mark but somehow Sam I-was-a-demon-blood-junkie-and-could-barely-keep-Lucifer-in-check-despite-being-his-true-vessel Winchester is going to have a much easier time holding back primordial chaos?
Fuck that noise.
I’m honestly laughing right now. Please refer to the quote that started this bullshit. “What happens when the mark turns you psycho?”
To me, that sounds like Dean is assuming the mark will overpower him, not “have an easier time holding back primordial chaos.”
And “tainted by the mark,” I’m not sure if you’ve missed a few episodes of this season or not, but I’m pretty sure that goes back to Dean being stuck so far up Amara’s ass because of the bond the mark caused. But yeah no, you’re completely right. Dean should be the one to lock away Amara even though he can never truly lock her away. This was also showcased by Dean attempting to go to Amara when he saw that she was wounded, but was held back by Sam.
But again, you obviously must be right because everyone on Dean’s side is right because Dean is always right even when he’s torturing souls in hell, calling his brother a monster for drinking demon blood in order to save humans from harm, lying and letting an angel possess him, putting a mutilated soul back into Sam, allowing Sam to rescue Lucifer, who tortured him for years.
Oh, my mistake. That’s just Dean looking out for his little brother. I must have forgot.
Wow. A Sam Stan hijacking a post about the narrative bias against Dean and making it about how Dean is a literal piece of shit who has done absolutelynothing but crucify Sam at every conceivably possible interval? What a shock. Totally wasn’t expecting to see that.
If I head one more Sam Stan whine about Sam having to deal with Lucifer I’m gonna scream. So what? This is what the Winchesters do, they deal with beings who have screwed them over, tortured them, killed them, etc, etc and are expected to handle it for the greater good, because they are the only ones who can do what they do. Last week Dean had to deal with being around Metatron, who you know slowly and coldly stabbed him in the chest and KILLED him. That’s the way it is. They are Winchesters this is what they do. Don’t forget that Castiel took away all of Sam’s pain from being in Hell anyway to save Sam’s life so no Sam does not have PTSD from it. Dean on the other hand still had untreated PTSD from when his mother died, never mind the whole freaking traumatic rest of his life. Also no one took away his pain or memories of being tortured in Hell constantly by Hell’s head torturer for 30 decades straight(there is no reason to believe Lucifer kept it constantly with Sam, Dean’s torture had a purpose, Sam’s didn’t and Lucifer is more like a kid who pulls wings off bugs whereas Alistair REALLY got off on the whole torture thing which is why he the head torturer), he still remembers every bit of it and how it felt. Then there was the 24/7 warfare of Purgatory for a year.
Not to mention the ridiculous notion of putting Sam’s own soul back in him was sort of terrible thing – you do realize without his soul Sam wasn’t really Sam right? Let Sam die? Well Sam’s body would be dead, but his SOUL would still be in hell, forever, that was the only other option.
And finally Dean did not FORCE any angels into Sam, Sam chose to live. Sam’s choice made of Sam’s own free will. No Sam didn’t know exactly what he was choosing but he chose life, whatever that meant, knowing he didn’t know exactly how. If Sam had refused, Gadreel would not have been able to take up residence. So while Dean not telling Sam afterwards is on him – Sam was not forced to do anything he didn’t choose himself. All Dean did was give Gadreel permission to talk to Sam. Sam’s the one who chose to live, however that was going to happen.
Honestly, the more I see responses like that one, the more convinced I become that the vast majority of Sam Stans haven’t actually watched the show? Like there must be a group of them who interpret whatever happened in a given episode in either a pro-Sam or anti-Dean light and whatever that reading is gets taken as dogma and then dispensed out to everyone else. I’ve seen way too many people make literally the exact same grossly biased and blatantly incorrect claims about the show’s narrative for them not to be parroting something. You can’t make some of the claims I’ve seen people make if you’ve actually watched the show.
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