slayerangels:

unholyseraphs:

alright my favorite cas lovers, i wanna talk real quick about everyone having a meltdown

first of all: i get it

i totally get it. i get that you’re in pain and panicking and really fucking angry right now about cas, and how the writers seemed to have forgotten about him again. 

but

i have to say, i don’t think it’s time to save castiel just yet. in fact, i’m not even all that sure castiel is going to be saved by the end of the season and here’s why: 

we all know cas is in a very dark place right now. he’s lost, he has a very season  7 vibe to him right now. he said yes to lucifer. he said yes. he let this happen to himself. he did it, because he was feeling useless, pointless, and as if he didn’t matter enough, so he said yes to help somehow. in the only way he knew how at the time. 

taking lucifer out of cas, without lucifer actually achieving anything at all, would be a slap in the face to cas. it would just show him, that his choices are, once again, bad choices and he is useless. obviously, this is not true, but he views himself in this way, so pulling lucifer back out, would be a nightmare on his mental health. 

the reason i don’t think cas should be saved by the end, no matter how much i want it to be so, i think they need to address the elephant in the room first – cas’ mental capacity and how he hates himself so damn much. he needs more than a pat on the back, a sorry from the brothers, and told to go on his way. he needs coaxing and comfort. healing. 

i’m not saying he would get this next season if lucifer is still possessing him, obviously i am not a writer on the show, i cannot predict the future. but, his storyline is so unresolved, this late in the game, and i think it’s for a reason. 

don’t despair cas lovers, i have faith that they will address cas. 

his time will come. hopefully in the next episode, but also, hopefully next season as well. we have to fight for cas, but cas also has to fight for cas. if he’s not willing or ready to fight for himself, then bringing him back isn’t going to go over well. 

i’m not even all that sure castiel is going to be saved by the end of the season

Unless Dean is hugging Lucifer in the finale, he is himself by the end.

he said yes. he let this happen to himself. he did it, because he was feeling useless, pointless, and as if he didn’t matter enough, so he said yes to help somehow. in the only way he knew how at the time.

He said yes because it was their only option. Sam and Dean acknowledged that by wanting to use him to fight Amara.  Other characters don’t speak for Cas.  Amara and an angel that doesn’t know him don’t speak for him.  His motivation, which is in character for him, is to do the right thing regardless of what Sam or Dean think.  That’s why he didn’t consult them on saying Yes to lucifer, just like he didn’t consult them on getting the purgatory souls.  He doesn’t care what they think when it comes to doing what has to be done.

taking lucifer out of cas, without lucifer actually achieving anything at all, would be a slap in the face to cas. it would just show him, that his choices are, once again, bad choices and he is useless. obviously, this is not true, but he views himself in this way, so pulling lucifer back out, would be a nightmare on his mental health.

Cas got Lucifer out of the cage and he put up a fight against Amara in episode 18.  If that didn’t achieve anything then Cas did what he could.  Cas is not a child, he’s not a baby.  He doesn’t need to be treated as such.

they need to address the elephant in the room first – cas’ mental capacity and how he hates himself so damn much. he needs more than a pat on the back, a sorry from the brothers, and told to go on his way. he needs coaxing and comfort. healing.

He needs “coaxing”?  Coaxing?? No, what he needs is a home and people who care about him.  Dean and Sam can do real concrete things like give him his own room in the bunker and say they don’t want him to be Lucifer’s vessel because A) God can build Lucifer another vessel and B) they know he couldn’t expel Lucifer on his own so they helped him do it.  Just like Dean and Cas helped Sam expel Gadreel after he said yes to him.  

if he’s not willing or ready to fight for himself, then bringing him back isn’t going to go over well.

It was established in episode 18 that he couldn’t expel Lucifer because his hold on him was too strong.  That has nothing to do with him being willing to fight for himself.  He got his own grace back last season just fine with no help from Sam or Dean since they didn’t offer any.  

Unless Cas says out of his own mouth that he only said Yes to Lucifer to feel useful, because of selfish motivations, then it’s not canon.  And if they do make it canon, then I will be pissed because it’s out of character for Cas.  The only things he said regarding the situation was to ask Lucifer if he could defeat Amara and when he said yes, Cas said yes.  And then he said he wanted to be of service in the fight.  Period.

her-roses-never-fall:

winjennster:

winjennster:

THAT MIGHT BE MY FAVE SAM MOMENT EVER EHHHHH THAT’S MINE

I wonder if Sam wishes he’d let Metatron have that beer.

Never thought I’d be so sad to see Metatron go.

I’m angry they had Metatron not only have a redemptive arc but  take one for the team. He didn’t earn it. Just because he had a chat with God last episode that doesn’t negate the fact that he literally murdered Dean in cold blood or any of the other really shitty things he’s done.