Gadreel will just always be one of my favourite side characters hands down. Because ultimately, much like Dean – which is why he is so fitting to Dean and probably also why he answered Dean’s prayer the way he did – he is all abou one thing: love. Gadreel has a lot to make up for. He let the serpent befall the Garden and he spent an eternity in Heaven’s jail. And if we trust his story – and I do think he is sincere – he didn’t know what he was doing, but he wanted to “set humanity free”. Because he loved humanity and he wanted for Adam and Eve in this case make it possible to love too.
I have written a lot about Gadreel in relation to Dean’s arc and the expulsion of Eden in relation to Dean’s fall from humanity, but essentially it’s moments like this one that drive the point home. Gadreel is vulnerable to love. It is one of the emotions he apparently feels strongly about and values deeply, which is why he emphasizes that he said yes because of Dean’s ability to love. It makes me sad every damn time that Gadreel, who always wanted to do right and tried to make up for his mistakes by helping a human, he somehow repeated all of his mistakes and helped along another time with humanity’s fall…
Oh yeah. Their argument made no sense to me. Amy thing is kinda like a trigger for me bc its been brought up by Sam!stans so many times over (seriously, there are even fanfics about that out there, you know of the mean!dean/poor!sammy variety) and they always, always love to bring up her name even if it doesn’t fit the current argument. Dean killing Amy has been discussed to death in this fandom and no matter what, Sam!stans refuse to see the truth of that situation and paint Dean as some kind of horrible villain.
Amy was dropping bodies left and right, she wasn’t some innocent soccer mom, she was a killer monster. Sam was batshit crazy, he had recently tried to kill Dean, so it wasn’t like Dean could have trusted Sam’s judgement in this matter. As you said, Sam should have apologized for the whole mess, and he sorta did –as much as Sam can anyway. I actually loved that episode, it’s a pity that the show never used that writer again. (yeah, maybe bc Sam was made to apologize or something, Sera Gamble was in charge)
Also, Sam did get his revenge against Dean for killing his brain-eater monster girlfriend, didn’t he? Sam killed Dean’s daughter even-though she had no blood on her hands at that moment. She was a monster, yes, but she hadn’t killed yet, she was redeemable. I mean, Dean’s influence changed Amara, so maybe his words might have worked on Emma too, but Sam didn’t give Emma a chance bc he wanted to get back at Dean for killing Amy.
Of course, Sam stans never talk about the unfairness of Emma’s death, you know, since she’s related to Dean and all that.
Sorry, but the whole thing was couched on “How Sam feels about this”.
Demon!Dean was about how Sam missed his nanny!Brother, always at his beck and call.
MoC!Dean was about how far Sam would go to get the Mark off Dean, and we never got to SEE Dean Lose control so badly that it merited Sam’s Chicken Little Attitude.
Darkness!BondDEan was about getting Dean out of the major decisions because “he couldn’t kill her”, and at the end, it was solved by shoving him aside since Amara found her love for humanity out of a conversation with a random woman in the park.
They NEVER say that their bond was based on their codependent-love for their brothers (in fact, all the way until this episode, there was NO codependency on Amara’s side)
THAT is fanon.
And sure, I am conviced that the writers didn’t plan for the conversation with the old lady to have more weight than Dean’s half-assed yellow crayon speech, but that was the end result (just like with the amazing world-saving toysoldier)
There is no explanation for the Bond, no real resolution to that storyline, and it was, in the end, as useless and baity as every single “hook” they give us about Dean.
With the extra cherry that it was creepy and non-conny as HELL.
(you REALLY want to tell me that the parallel is that Sam is willing to destroy the world in a tantrum if Dean doesn’t abandon all creation for him? UGH)
Yeah… I resent this love triangle so much just because it so unabashedly exists 😛
I personally don’t think anyone was actually implicated in reciprocating it in any way until Drowley in season 10 but Crowley’s mix of aggressive flirting and apparently developing real crushes despite his best efforts has made me convinced he’s in love with all 4 of Team Free Will one point or another… Sam’s always had the least amount of patience for him and would happily just kill him, but from the start Dean’s resentfully had chemistry with him, so I’ve always seen 6×20 as Crowley gleefully elbowing in on the DeanCas thing almost as much to spite Dean as anything on the personal side rather than the plot side… The Dean/Cas/Crowley love triangle haunts me. 😛 Crowley just seems so aware he’s homewrecking them, maybe because since he showed up to the “watched him rake leaves” moment he actually got to feel like he was stealing Cas from Dean…
Anyway I think that was much more on Crowley, but it did exactly the same as the season 10 Dean/Cas/Crowley love triangle, which was cast one random branch of it romantically (albeit in the weird/horrible Crowley being flirtatious way) so that the other branch of it between Dean and Cas is being talked about in those terms as well…
Oh, the Dean/Cas/Crowley triangle has always been real. Cas and Crowley have been mirrors for each other since forever after all, their characters have always been connected in the narrative…
This is one of those things that the show does that leads me to sit in astonishment at how they can actually be so bloody bold in the subtext to the extent that it becomes an actual serious plot point in season 10. Drowley specifically, none of us asked for it. None of us wanted it, but it was shoved at us anyway by the shows subtext which was so blatantly obvious I’m surprised that even the most oblivious of viewers didn’t catch on. Crowley is weirdly in love with Dean and even weirder is that he is well aware that this makes him a home wrecker in a manner of ways. That deleted scene from 10×14 continues to amaze me everytime I watch it… like SERIOUSLY SHOW? I don’t think that Cas actually went there with Crowley in season 6 since he was rather repulsed by the idea of working with him… but I have no doubt that Crowley tried it on. Cas and Crowley now have this weird relationship where they both have a mutual respect for one another, in one way because they play their parts as the (literal) angel and demon on Deans shoulders, and also because both are very much aware of their hopeless devotion to him. It was after all, canonical portrayed as a competition for deans affections in 10×14, when he chose Cas over Crowley.
So yeah as far as this weird love triangle goes, very much real since season 6 where Crowley has been trying his luck with each of them to take what he can get. I personally only think he succeeded with Dean (no seriously). Him and Dean hooked up whilst Dean was all demonic (which can be argued as dub con anyway since Dean wasn’t right of mind) but still. They went there. Crowley implied as much in 11×02. I’ll never get over that fact.
Tbh drowley is literally the worst because as you say most of us didn’t even want it, so you’re there half laughing half just shaking your head in astonishment thinking of how it seems that destiel is so out there, so all-in-your-head, like the possibility of canon is SUCH a shocking concept for the creative team, but then at the same time they’re like, hey you know what we should do? Really push the subtextual drowley. Yeah damn right. Dean and Crowley. With really blatant sexual and romantic subtext. Why not stop at an alliance? Or why not depict it as a brotherhood, like when they were both demons they were kinda like twins, connected in their devious ways? Nah. Nah, we really need to push that kinda-one-sided-but-maybe-not-completely-for-a-while romantic+sexual portrayal for Reasons. What reasons? Who the hell knows. Meanwhile we’re all here just like, OK THEN, DROWLEY THEN, like what can you do, but we’re also here like YOU’RE GIVING US MIXED SIGNALS DUDE. And then crowley’s all like “ooh we had such a ✨👌✨Bromance✨👌✨ dean”, and you’re like ALRIGHT I GIVE UP WHAT ARE YOU EVEN PLAYING AT. I FUCKING GIVE UP
Hahaha that was my exact response back in like, 10×01… And I have not managed to get over it since… just sitting here like… they decided to write Dean a relationship with a dude… and it was Crowley??
While I can’t think of a lot of not-Dean-related storylines that have been cut short, there certainly are. For example the darkness cure. But the problem is the context. Dean has had a lot of abandoned SLs, while Sam’s or Cas’s usually get fleshed out. I mean, have the writers ever jumped the shark with Sam/Cas like they did with Dean in 4×19 or 8×14 etc.?
Also in s11, the Dean-Amara bond was ignored for quite some time, while Sam had his visions and Cas was possessed by Lucifer.
I’m pretty sure the writers could arrange a better Dean-narrative without neglecting other stories, if they only tried.
There’s no doubt that all characters have
had some abandoned/neglected SLs, but what I find telling is the way those SLs
were abandoned. For example, Jared said at JIBcon that there was a scene cut
from 11×22 that dealt with Sam’s fear of being around Lucifer, so one might say
that Sam gets treated as badly by the writers as Dean does.
But that’s not exactly true. Firstly, we’ve
already seen the “Sam’s Cage trauma” storyline explored many times. Secondly,
even though it got dropped in this particular episode, at least it got an entire scene in the original
script. Dean’s own Hell trauma, on the other hand, apparently didn’t even get a single line in the
script of 11×10. What does that say about the writers’ interest in Dean?
I reckon the editor/director was like “oh God, not MORE of Sam’s hell trauma *rolls eyes* CUT!!!”
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