Hi. I don’t know if Mary nearly shooting herself so her sons could live was supposed to be some kind of redeeming moment. But when I saw it ALL I could think about was how Dean had to see his mother die violently when he was four and now he has to watch her blow her freaking brains out in front of him. As much as I don’t care about Mary my soul was crying for Dean at that moment.

lovethediseasedkillerpuppy:

My guess is the writers intention was for her to seem ‘heroic’ or show her love for her sons but frankly I didn’t buy it. Last we saw of Mary she was rather indifferent about living & before that ep she was even leaning more to the rather be dead side. I didn’t see her offer as selfless & it didn’t redeem her at all to me. Frankly, I’d go as far to say it was on the selfish side. “I don’t wanna see my son die so I’ll die instead.” On the surface it may sound like it was for them but given thought, it’s not. And I say that bc of what you brought up; Dean. Sam too, to lesser extent. Dean has never gotten over the fire & Mary KNOWS how it messed him up. To see it again & on top of that, her dying in HIS place (cuz ya know he’d blame himself) that’d cause irrevocable damage.
But selfishly I totally wanted her to pull the trigger (sorry Dean) cuz I’m done with her. She continues to piss me off. And so help me if the “consequences” Billie spoke of come back on Cas cuz he saved Mary, Ima be pissed.

electric-sympathy:

Examples of modern Supernatural cannibalizing itself:

11×20: Fuck, we’ve written ourselves into a corner with Amara. I know! Let’s flush all the subtlety of S5 down the shitter, invalidate all previous observations about the order of the SPN-verse and make God an actual character with Relatable™

Quirks™!

11×23: Oh, shit, we don’t know how to top God and insert more drama. Quick, bring Mary back and ruin all of her background mythology!

S12: Shit, we have no idea how to make this arc compelling and angsty. Quick, devalue the boys’ past Hell experiences to make their current status seem more important and impactful! Alistair, everyone’s favorite antagonist, is now incompetent even though he managed to break Dean!

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