This is a very interesting moment for how it’s both written and acted. It’s fairly obvious that what Sam is asking of Dean is to get on Sam’s page, rather than finding a common page. Dean’s response is calm – he’s just been making sarcastic quips, but in this moment he’s just stating a fact fairly neutrally. He says that they’re not on the same page. And Sam is immediately frustrated, makes gestures that implicitly mean ‘you’re being unreasonable Dean’, and instead of continuing the conversation they’re having – about Jack and where they stand in relation to what to do with him – he turns the topic into Dean’s feelings (Sam’s favorite topic to talk about, since he’s repeatedly proven to be open to talking about feelings – as long as the feelings are Dean’s, but this is a topic for another time). Dean immediately becomes defensive, and keeps the stony demeanor through Sam’s speech as Sam doesn’t seem to be getting the point of Dean’s feelings after all. I believe Sam has genuinely good intentions when he makes that speech to Dean, but it’s interesting that the occasion that prompts the speech is a moment of frustration because Dean points out that they have different ideas, and Sam uses Dean’s feelings as a substitute for an argument actually related to what Dean has just said, i.e. that they’re having a disagreement.
This scene reminded me a bit of the end of The Slice Girls after Sam had killed Dean’s supernatural Amazon daughter. Sam stated pretty aggressively that Dean’s emotions (over Cas’ presumed death) had compromised his judgement.
Totally! Thanks for the cue because I have feels about that.
The great Winchester Disagreement of season 7 started actually with the Amy Pond debacle, personally the most frustrating storyline of the show because Dean really did not deserve all the crap that fell on him in season 7.
Dean deemed Amy Pond to be a creature that needed to be killed. Sam had developed an attachment to her from when they were kids, and deemed her more human than monster, and her kills were due to understandable reasons (saving her son, also a non-human that needed fresh brains not to die of an illness, a medical professional probably will tell you that the medical code does not in fact condone killing three people even if it’s to save a sick child, but okay). Dean thought that her kills were proof that her nature was that of a monster, and that, despite she’d never killed anyone for years, as soon as she’d had a strong reason to do so, she’d done it, so chances were that she could be doing it again in the future. Dean thought she couldn’t be trusted not to kill any more (she had killed despite her vow never to). Sam thought she could be trusted, because she said so.
Dean deemed that Sam’s judgement was compromised by a personal liking of the monster, who was actually dangerous and hardly trustworthy since she’d already broken her vow of not killing anyone. Sam deemed that Dean’s judgement was off because Dean was in a all-monsters-are-bad mode (three people got murdered by her for brains, Sam, you killed monsters for less).
And that disagreement bled into the discussion at the end of The Slice Girls, because Sam accuses Dean of hypocrisy since he wasn’t going to kill Emma (who, might I add, hadn’t killed anyone yet, unlike someone else*).
*Also notice how Dean did NOT kill Amy’s son, who was also a kitsune but had not killed anyone yet?
Sam used the “You know what? [Your feelings are compromising your judgement]” card to abruptly move the conversation from the actual reasons of their disagreement to Dean’s emotional state that time too.
What did you say to me… when I was the one who choked? What did you say about Amy? “You kill the monster!”
I was going to!
Oh, the hell you were! You think I’m an idiot?
What, you think I am?
Dean, you were gonna let her walk!
No, I wasn’t. That’s ridiculous!
Look, man, she was not yours. Not really.
Actually, she, uh, she was, really. She just also happened to be a crazy man-killing monster. But, uh, hey.
You know what? Bobby was right. Your head’s not in it, man. When Cas died, you were wobbly, but now…
Now what? Oh, what, you’re dealing with it so perfect? Yeah, news flash, pal: you’re just as screwed up as I am! You’re just… bigger.
What?!
I don’t know.
Look… Dean, the thing is, tonight… It almost got you killed. Now, I don’t care how you deal. I really, really don’t. But just don’t – don’t get killed.
I’ll do what I can.
Well, what’s that supposed to mean?
It means I’ll do what I can. All right? You can shut up about it.Let’s also remember that Sam’s “personal relationship” with Amy, upon which he based this was a few hours they’d spent together one afternoon at the age of 14 which included his first kiss. So it’s not like he was basing this on real personal knowledge of her – he literally barely knew her for a day, like 15 years earlier. It’s not like with Benny for example, where Dean knew him for almost a full year(Benny was another victim of Sam and his pettiness over Dean killing Amy).
Then there was the fact that Amy’s story didn’t add up, I can’t remember all the details right now as it’s been years since I’ve seen the episode but there were a lot of holes in her story which Sam didn’t even question. Plus she just conveniently was like “oh but like you just happened to catch me on my last killing Sam, really I was going to stop after this because my son is now cured”. Oh how very convenient that sonny boy is cured right when she gets caught isn’t it?
Sam’s killed other monsters for less HE was the one who was emotionally compromised.
I mean Emma was his niece, she was Dean’s daughter and he snuffed her out like a bug. She hadn’t even hurt anyone yet.
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